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ATARI 354 DISK DRIVE
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Barry
2013-04-14 18:30:56 UTC
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Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and
get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???

The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.

Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a
DS/DD on
a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would
it work
as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44
internal drive?

Or does something else need to be done.

Barry
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Bravo Sierra Computers
2013-04-17 13:21:14 UTC
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Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and get a
DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???
The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.
Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a DS/DD
on a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would
it work as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the
1.44 internal drive?
Or does something else need to be done.
Barry
I've Taken A Double Sided ST Drive Mech Salvaged From A Dead ST & Inserted It
Into An SF354 And Made It Work! The Important Thing Is To Get One With A
Matching Eject Button! I've Also Replaced The Defective Internal Drive In My
Mega ST With A Drive Mech From An SF314! =-=Ben=-=

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Steve Stupple
2013-04-20 12:20:37 UTC
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Post by Barry
Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and
get a > DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???
The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.
Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a
DS/DD > on a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second
drive, would > it work as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the
Mega STe has the > 1.44 internal drive?
Or does something else need to be done.
Barry
I've Taken A Double Sided ST Drive Mech Salvaged From A Dead ST & Inserted It
Into An SF354 And Made It Work! The Important Thing Is To Get One With A
Matching Eject Button! I've Also Replaced The Defective Internal Drive In
My Mega ST With A Drive Mech From An SF314! =-=Ben=-=
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& ST Lines + Atari 2600/5200/7800, Jaguar & Lynx Games, Consoles & Hand Held!
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Unlike amiga drives, atari st drives are sort of standard. So any 3.5"
drive should fit as they use the stand schugart interface. I've never tried
a direct replacement for hd drives, you won't be able to go hd but should
be able to read dd disks though.

Steve
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2013-04-20 19:04:04 UTC
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Post by Barry
Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and
get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???
The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.
Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a
DS/DD on
a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would
it work
as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44
internal drive?
Or does something else need to be done.
Barry
most ibm drives are set too drive b so you need to set it to drive A all all later disk drives for ibm do this with the cable.
try to find a drive with < A -B > on it try a 720k drive from a apple.
some 1.44 drives will not work on a stf - stfm -ste. // megaste may work in 720k
only.
Steve Stupple
2013-04-23 16:31:27 UTC
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Post by r***@gmail.com
Post by Barry
Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and
get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???
The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.
Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a
DS/DD on
a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would
it work
as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44
internal drive?
Or does something else need to be done.
Barry
most ibm drives are set too drive b so you need to set it to drive A
all all later disk drives for ibm do this with the cable.
try to find a drive with < A -B > on it try a 720k drive from a apple.
some 1.44 drives will not work on a stf - stfm -ste. // megaste may work in 720k
only.
Atari setup shouldn't make a difference, I'm using hd in my lighthouse
towered ste, and have no problem. My mste came with a hd drive. The floppy
lines on the st's are connected in parallel with each other. That's why you
are able to have 2 external drives daisy chained, if you disconnect the
internal one.

Steve
Barry
2013-04-27 17:48:58 UTC
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Post by r***@gmail.com
Post by Barry
Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and
get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???
The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.
Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a
DS/DD on
a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, would
it work
as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44
internal drive?
Or does something else need to be done.
Barry
most ibm drives are set too drive b so you need to set it to drive A
all all later disk drives for ibm do this with the cable.
try to find a drive with < A -B > on it try a 720k drive from a apple.
some 1.44 drives will not work on a stf - stfm -ste. // megaste may work in 720k
only.
Well I need it for a Drive B as the Atari 354 drive i have is a external
drive. Single Sided.
My MegaSTE has a 1.44mb drive A inside.
If you have ever connected a second drive to a MSTE that has the internal
1.44mb Drive A
you'll understand what I'm talking about.

However I have a 1040STe, and using the 354 as a Drive B thats DSDD would be
ok.
I'm just wondering what type of Mech will work and if a 1.44 would do both
jobs if I want to
use it for either the 1040STE or MSTE as a second 1.44.

Barry
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Steve Stupple
2013-05-06 15:24:35 UTC
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Post by Barry
Post by Barry
Can one simply change the drive Mech out of an Atari 354 disk drive and
get a DS/DD Drive, if thats the type of Mech you put in it???
The Atari 354 is a single sided drive asfaik.
Also, if you put a 1.44 Mech into a Atari 354 drive, would it work as a
DS/DD on
a 1040STE, But if you connected it to a MEGA STE as a second drive, >> would
it work
as a DS/DD and or a 1.44 Drive, especially if the Mega STe has the 1.44
internal drive?
Or does something else need to be done.
Barry
most ibm drives are set too drive b so you need to set it to drive A >
all all later disk drives for ibm do this with the cable.
try to find a drive with < A -B > on it try a 720k drive from a apple.
some 1.44 drives will not work on a stf - stfm -ste. // megaste may work > in 720k
only.
Well I need it for a Drive B as the Atari 354 drive i have is a external
drive. Single Sided.
My MegaSTE has a 1.44mb drive A inside.
If you have ever connected a second drive to a MSTE that has the internal 1.44mb Drive A
you'll understand what I'm talking about.
However I have a 1040STe, and using the 354 as a Drive B thats DSDD would be ok.
I'm just wondering what type of Mech will work and if a 1.44 would do
both jobs if I want to
use it for either the 1040STE or MSTE as a second 1.44.
Barry
Double sided should work, I use a 720k with my mste, and that will work for
both machines. Can't say what a 1.44 would do on a mste as I haven't needed
to try it, but you won't be able to use hd mode on a standard ste. I had to
modify mine.

But saying that, and knowing how they are wired, there shouldn't be any
reason you shouldn't be able to use hd on the mega. All drive lines ar
parallel to each other, they are all connected, that is how discovery
cartridge is able to duplicate disks n the spectre mac emulator being able
to treat them as mac drives.

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