Ultra Satan Drive, Abandoned!

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Bravo Sierra Computers

2012-01-13 09:12:42 UTC

I Have Abandoned All Hopes For The Ultra Satan Drive!!! The Main Advantage To
The Ultra Satan Drive Is Virtually No Moving Parts! So It May Never Wear Out!
But For Me, The Overwhelming Disadvantages: 1) Does Not Use SCSI Hard Drives!
So I Cant Attach My SCSI Hard Drives,So I Cant Transfer My Files From My Hard
Drives To The Secure Digital Drives! That Means I'll Have To Move My Files To
The Ultra Satan Drive Using 3.5" Floppies!Disadvantage 2) Since I Cant Hookup
SCSI Devices, I Cant Use My SCSI CD ROM, My SCSI CD Writer Or Even My SCSI
Flat Bed Full Color Scanner!And For Me, The Last Disadvantage 3) All My Atari
ST Computers Use TOS v.1.4 Operating System!Ultra Satan Needs A Newer Version
Of TOS Than My TOS v.1.4 Or it May Lose Data!So For Now, I'm Sticking To My 1
GigaByte SCSI HardDrive,At Least Until The Bugs Are Worked Out For TOS v.1.4!

=-Thanx-=
=-=Ben=-=

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Ronald J. Hall

2012-01-13 20:29:05 UTC

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:12:42 -0800, Bravo Sierra Computers wrote:

3) All My Atari ST Computers

Use TOS v.1.4 Operating System!Ultra Satan Needs A Newer Version Of TOS
Than My TOS v.1.4 Or it May Lose Data!So For Now, I'm Sticking To My 1
GigaByte SCSI HardDrive,At Least Until The Bugs Are Worked Out For TOS v.1.4!

Ben, I use an Ultrasatan with TOS 1.04 on my STacy. I'm not aware of any
data loss problems?

Can you provide links to what you are referring to? Thanks.

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Bravo Sierra Computers

2012-01-14 07:31:14 UTC

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Post by Ronald J. Hall
3) All My Atari ST Computers

Ben, I use an Ultrasatan with TOS 1.04 on my STacy. I'm not aware of any
data loss problems?

I Read About It On A Supporting Web Site!

Post by Ronald J. Hall
Can you provide links to what you are referring to? Thanks.

Sorry, I Dont Have The Supportive Web Links! Sorry! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

Post by Ronald J. Hall
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sea1045

2012-01-16 22:24:21 UTC

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Post by Bravo Sierra Computers
Files To
The Ultra Satan Drive Using 3.5" Floppies!Disadvantage 2) Since I Cant Hookup
SCSI Devices, I Cant Use My SCSI CD ROM, My SCSI CD Writer Or Even My SCSI
Flat Bed Full Color Scanner!And For Me, The Last Disadvantage 3) All My Atari
ST Computers Use TOS v.1.4 Operating System!Ultra Satan Needs A Newer Version
Of TOS Than My TOS v.1.4 Or it May Lose Data!So For Now, I'm Sticking To My 1
GigaByte SCSI HardDrive,At Least Until The Bugs Are Worked Out For TOS v.1.4!
=-Thanx-=
=-=Ben=-=
Games/Software, Hardware/Accessories & Books/References!Atari
Computers,8 Bit
& ST Lines + Atari 2600/5200/7800, Jaguar & Lynx Games, Consoles & Hand Held!
FREE Catalogs at http://BensCatalogs.Atari.org or
http://BenSells.Atari.org
Please Specify Atari 8 Bit, ST, 2600/7800, 5200, Jaguar and/or Lynx! Call Ben
anytime at (503)256-9974! Come For The Sales, Stay For The
Service!1978-2011!
Sent on my Atari Computer

Bravo Sierra Computers

2012-01-17 14:38:30 UTC

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Does This Mean Ultra Satan Will Work With SCSI Devices? =-=Ben=-=

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:24:21 -0800
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Ultra Satan Drive, Abandoned!

Not sure I understand. I have my ste connected to the ultra satan, then to a
link then to a cr/cw drive then to a zip drive. I don't seem to have any
trouble transfering files back and forth.
sea1045

Post by Bravo Sierra Computers
Files To
The Ultra Satan Drive Using 3.5" Floppies!Disadvantage 2) Since I Cant Hookup
SCSI Devices, I Cant Use My SCSI CD ROM, My SCSI CD Writer Or Even My SCSI
Flat Bed Full Color Scanner!And For Me, The Last Disadvantage 3) All My Atari
ST Computers Use TOS v.1.4 Operating System!Ultra Satan Needs A Newer Version
Of TOS Than My TOS v.1.4 Or it May Lose Data!So For Now, I'm Sticking To My 1
GigaByte SCSI HardDrive,At Least Until The Bugs Are Worked Out For TOS v.1.4!
=-Thanx-=
=-=Ben=-=
Games/Software, Hardware/Accessories & Books/References!Atari Computers,8 Bit
& ST Lines + Atari 2600/5200/7800, Jaguar & Lynx Games, Consoles & Hand Held!
FREE Catalogs at http://BensCatalogs.Atari.org or
http://BenSells.Atari.org
Please Specify Atari 8 Bit, ST, 2600/7800, 5200, Jaguar and/or Lynx! Call Ben
anytime at (503)256-9974! Come For The Sales, Stay For The
Service!1978-2011!
Sent on my Atari Computer

Games/Software, Hardware/Accessories & Books/References!Atari Computers,8 Bit & ST Lines + Atari 2600/5200/7800, Jaguar & Lynx Games, Consoles & Hand Held!
FREE Catalogs at http://BensCatalogs.Atari.org or http://BenSells.Atari.org Request Atari Catalogs by E-Mail at ***@aracnet.com or ***@Atari.org &
Please Specify Atari 8 Bit, ST, 2600/7800, 5200, Jaguar and/or Lynx! Call Ben anytime at (503)256-9974! Come For The Sales, Stay For The Service!1978-2012!
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Bravo Sierra Computers

2012-01-17 15:16:54 UTC

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Thank You,

You've Just Restored My Hope In Doing This! If I Can Use This With My Link And
SCSI Devices?Can Somebody Build This For Me!I'm Looking For Someone Supporting
This In E-Mail And By Phone! Not Via The Web Since I Have A Sucky Web Browser!

=-Thanx-=
=-=Ben=-=

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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:24:21 -0800

Not sure I understand. I have my ste connected to the ultra satan, then to a
link then to a cr/cw drive then to a zip drive. I don't seem to have any
trouble transfering files back and forth.

sea1045

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On Thu, 27 Oct 2011, ***@atarifanstore.info wrote:

Hi Ben,

Please take a look to Zoxon's website (ordering page)
http://zaxon.eu/usatan.html

His contact email is ***@googlemail.com

Regards
Irek

http://joo.kie.sk/satandisk

http://joo.kie.sk/ultrasatan

www.atarifanstore.info

Bravo Sierra Computers

2012-01-17 16:57:38 UTC

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I Have A Dream, To Own An Ultra Satan Drive, Built Into My ICD Fast Hard Drive
Case, Along With My ICD Link 2 Host Adapter! Is Anybody Willing To Build This
For Me? Preferably SomeOne, In The United States! Please Answer! Please Reply!
Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

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Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 07:16:54 -0800

Thank You,

You've Just Restored My Hope In Doing This! If I Can Use This With My Link And
SCSI Devices?Can Somebody Build This For Me!I'm Looking For Someone Supporting
This In E-Mail And By Phone! Not Via The Web Since I Have A Sucky Web Browser!

=-Thanx-=
=-=Ben=-=

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Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:24:21 -0800

Ronald J. Hall

2012-01-17 22:21:33 UTC

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Post by Bravo Sierra Computers
I Have A Dream, To Own An Ultra Satan Drive, Built Into My ICD Fast Hard
Drive Case, Along With My ICD Link 2 Host Adapter! Is Anybody Willing To
Build This For Me? Preferably SomeOne, In The United States! Please
Answer! Please Reply! Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your
Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

Ben, I'd go to AtariForum or AtariAge (or both) and post this problem in
those places.

Lots of knowledgeable people there will try to help you.

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Bravo Sierra Computers

2012-01-18 03:57:45 UTC

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AtariForum & AtariAge Are Not An Option For Me!Hell,A Lot Of The Web Is Not An
Option For Me! My Web Browser Sucks! I'm Using An HTML Browser That Doesnt Do
Java Script, Graphics Or Sound!Only Text! I've Asked For Help Setting Up A Web
Browser On My ST Like CAB Or HiWire! Unfortunately I Didnt Get The Help I Need
To Get It Working! I Need Someone To Set It Up For Me On My Hard Drive! I Hope
You Dont Mind If We Talk About this Here! I'd Like To Do This! Please Reply!
Please Answer! Please Reply Irregardless of your Answers! Thanx! =-=Ben=-=

Date: 17 Jan 2012 22:21:33 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Ultra Satan Drive, Abandoned!

Ben, I'd go to AtariForum or AtariAge (or both) and post this problem in
those places.
Lots of knowledgeable people there will try to help you.
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2012-01-19 12:53:27 UTC

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Post by Bravo Sierra Computers
I Have Abandoned All Hopes For The Ultra Satan Drive!!! The Main Advantage To
The Ultra Satan Drive Is Virtually No Moving Parts! So It May Never Wear Out!
But For Me, The Overwhelming Disadvantages: 1) Does Not Use SCSI Hard Drives!
So I Cant Attach My SCSI Hard Drives,So I Cant Transfer My Files From My Hard
Drives To The Secure Digital Drives! That Means I'll Have To Move My Files To
The Ultra Satan Drive Using 3.5" Floppies!Disadvantage 2) Since I Cant Hookup
SCSI Devices, I Cant Use My SCSI CD ROM, My SCSI CD Writer Or Even My SCSI
Flat Bed Full Color Scanner!And For Me, The Last Disadvantage 3) All My Atari
ST Computers Use TOS v.1.4 Operating System!Ultra Satan Needs A Newer Version
Of TOS Than My TOS v.1.4 Or it May Lose Data!So For Now, I'm Sticking To My 1
GigaByte SCSI HardDrive,At Least Until The Bugs Are Worked Out For TOS v.1.4!

Some people prefer not prehistoric storage devices :-)
And is not correct that TOS 1.04 may causing data loss. It will be
rather age of your beloved Atari.

PP http://atari.8bitchip.info - where can find right
answers .

Bravo Sierra Computers

2012-01-22 14:56:00 UTC

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I've Data Mined The Info About The Data Corruption! I'm Sorry To Report I Was
Wrong! Data Corruption Had To Do With Transfer Between DOS & TOS Formats!
The Information And The Link Are Directly Below!

http://joo.kie.sk/ultrasatan/faq.html

Question:

Do you have a preference for running UltraSatan with either (a) an Atari STE
with (Tos 1.62/2.06) or (b) an STFM (Tos 1.4)?

Answer:

I would recommend using a machine with the newest TOS, so my choice would be
STE with TOS 2.06, or at least 1.62. Older TOS versions have trouble (or are
unable) to access SD/MMC cards formated with TOS & DOS compatibility (for easy
data transfer between PC and Atari), they are slower in hard-drive access and
some have fatal bugs which cause the partition losses on hard-drives or data
corruption.

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Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:53:27 -0800 (PST)

2012-01-24 16:49:36 UTC

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Post by Bravo Sierra Computers
I've Data Mined The Info About The Data Corruption! I'm Sorry To Report I Was
Wrong! Data Corruption Had To Do With Transfer Between DOS & TOS Formats!
The Information And The Link Are Directly Below!
http://joo.kie.sk/ultrasatan/faq.html
Do you have a preference for running UltraSatan with either (a) an Atari STE
with (Tos 1.62/2.06) or (b) an STFM (Tos 1.4)?
I would recommend using a machine with the newest TOS, so my choice would be
STE with TOS 2.06, or at least 1.62. Older TOS versions have trouble (or are
unable) to access SD/MMC cards formated with TOS & DOS compatibility (for easy
data transfer between PC and Atari), they are slower in hard-drive access and
some have fatal bugs which cause the partition losses on hard-drives or data
corruption.

That's pretty much general blah, even if is done by designer of
UltraSatan self. Yes, TOS 1.04 is little slower, but you will hardly
even notice 1% less speed. Fatal data bugs stay mostly for TOS 1.02 .
And it is not like that they happen often. Actually, they happen only
at some specific circumstances. By normal usage, when not opening too
much files and folders even TOS 1.02 is reliable. But TOS 1.04 is
much better. TOS 1.62 is in fact 99% same as 1.04 - it is just
expanded with STE specific things. Filesystem part is same as in
1.04 , Actually, if you have some ST, Mega ST, you can not go
simple on 2.06 - need additional logic for new TOS space. I have Mega
ST and ST 1024 equipped with TOS switch and can use any TOS in range
1.00 - 2.06 (1.62 is STE only, so not it, but have STE with) . It is
not true that TOS/DOS compatible partitioning works not with 1.04. It
works. And myself made multipartition TOS/DOS compatible hard disk
driver, etc.

TOS switch, with in circuit programming option (Flash ROM) :
http://atari.8bitchip.info/flashest.php

Atari mass storage: http://atari.8bitchip.info/astams.php

Look other pages on site too ...

PP